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2. Destiny vs. Selfwill

Page as of Oct. 14, 2001

                      Destiny versus Selfwill

Based on normal distribution, 8.5 percent of all people have their Sun
(individuality) in one of the 12 signs.  Of these, 8.5 percent have an
ascendant (personality) in one the 12 signs.  This is how, for example,
two Leos with different ascendants (rising signs) can project themselves
differently, despite similarities in their characters.  Of these. 8.5
percent have their Sun in one of the 12 Houses, Affairs of Life,
accentuating that sector in their lives.  Thus, a person with the Sun, for
example, in Gemini and the 3rd House of communications, news, messages
would have the inclination to become a journalist or reporter.  The Sun in
Virgo and the 3rd House may denote a lawyer instead, the Sun in Virgo and
9th House a judge or a professor of law.  However, if the Sun in this
position is conjunct to, for example, the "substantive" but also
"debilitating" Saturn, the effect may be different.  In this case, this
person may display the astute, cautious, and deliberate qualities of a
thinker, perhaps also an author, but not necessarily a talker.  Similarly,
if, for example, Mercury, the planet that is associated with the mind and
speech, is conjunct to Saturn in the 3rd House, the effect may be still
different.  This may mark a profound thinker but a slow and deliberate
talker, perhaps someone like Dr.  Kissinger.  Yet, depending on other
influences, this effect may also denote a slow learner or a tendency to

If the relationship is between Mercury and Uranus instead, depending on
the aspect (angle) between them, the influence may manifest in other ways.
The conjunction may bring about a very sharp but scattered mind that is
unable to capitalize on the sharpness.  Many hyperactive children are
probably in this category and this aspect may denote a form of learning
disability.  Astrology can diagnose these traits, but only counselors can
resolve them.  In some cases, this influence may manifest in speech, as
difficulties in articulation, regardless of how sharp the mind is.
Senator Moynihan and Mark Shield are probably in this category,
representative of people whose minds are seemingly always several steps
ahead of their tongues.  Proceeding in this fashion through the Moon,
Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, and
taking account the aspects between the planets, astrology tries to
pinpoint the potential traits, talents and impurities of an individual.
Of course, there are many gray areas and unknowns in astrology.

The house-placement of planets (in a birth chart) has significant
consequences in life.  The affairs of life associated with a particular
house remain relatively dormant if there are no planets placed in that
house.  In contrast, if there are one or more planets positioned in a
particular house at the time of birth, that house and the affairs
associated with it assume importance throughout one's life.  The word
"importance" needs clarification, for it accounts for a major confusion
and controversy in astrology: "preordained destiny" versus "individual in
control of destiny."  A particular planet in a particular house is
analogous to a seed planted in the ground.  THIS IS WHERE THE DESTINY
ENDS.  It is up to the individual to water and to fertilize the seed so
that it blooms to a lush plant.  A planet in a house, in itself, denotes
potential.  If the potential is nurtured, it becomes something.  If not,
it dies with the person as unrealized potential.

The potential is characterized by the identity of the planet and the house
in which it is positioned.  Consider the case of an individual with Venus,
the planet that characterizes one's creative potential, in the 5th house
of creativity.  The seed is there.  The creative potential, in possibly in
art, music, dance, theater, in this person is substantial.  Add the Moon
and Jupiter in the 5th House.  The potential now becomes enormous
potential.  As this person grows older, he or she will become aware of it
and experience strong "urges" to nurture it.  This is not all.  Since
Venus also characterizes the romantic nature, as does the 5th House, a
side benefit of these placements is the promise of a rich love-life, and
with Jupiter in the 5th House, possibly a promiscuous love-life and
multiple marriages.  The Moon in the 5th House will add intensity and a
sense of involvement.  It could either complicate separations, when it is
time to move on to a new partner, or it can provide the impetus to
settling down with one partner and to having several children, which is
also a 5th House affair.

If the Moon is replaced with Mercury in the 5th House, the creative
potential is still very strong and it becomes more versatile.  The "sense
of involvement" and subjectivity of the Moon is replaced with the more
objective Mercury.  Since Mercury is the planet of writing and
communication skills, the talent may surface, for example, as an art
critic, journalist, reporter, writer, etc., but not so much as a painter.
Suppose the expansive Jupiter is replaced with the restricting Saturn in
the 5th House.  This alters the picture significantly.  Saturn does not
necessarily deny dreams.  The potential is still there, but now the
progress becomes arduous but perhaps also more substantive.  For an actor,
this difference may surface, for example, as an urge to undergo training
to move from parts in soap operas to more substantive stage acting.  Since
the 5th House also rules romance, Saturn (not Jupiter) there may project
either as a ponderous and unhappy love affair, or a deep and enduring
relationship with one partner, depending on the aspects it forms with
other planets and other placements in the chart.  This will also depend on
the circumstances.

So far, nothing has been said about the sign of the 5th house.  Let us
suppose it is Gemini.  Gemini is basically a mental sign with versatile,
experimenting, and extrovert characteristics.  The Moon, Venus, Jupiter in
5th House Gemini would accentuate versatility rather than depth.  Here the
individual is likely to dilute his/her talent in pursuit of too many
unrelated activities, including multiple partners, possibly with several
at the same time. If Gemini is replaced with Scorpio as the sign of the
5th House, again the situation changes significantly.  The versatile,
playful, experimenting, and extroverted Gemini characteristics now become
fixed, serious, and introverted characteristics of Scorpio.  The lifestyle
and the manner in which the talent is pursued will change accordingly.
These observations also apply to the case where Gemini and Scorpio are the
respective Sun signs or Ascendants, rather than the sign of the 5th House.
Obviously the individuality and/or personality of the native will also
project these characteristics, as the 5th house, but somewhat differently,
deeply.  The complexity arises in situations where, for example, all this
activity in the 5th House occurs in Gemini, but the Sun is in a sign that
is not compatible to Gemini, say Capricorn.  Eventually everyone learns to
live with their peculiarities, but because of these complexities some
people may be late bloomers.  That is, they need more time to acclimate to
their inner makeup.

The situation can be even more complicated.  Suppose that Venus, Moon, and
Jupiter in 5th House Gemini are indeed very harmonious together and in
context to rest of the chart.  But suppose also that the Sun in Scorpio is
in a conflicting Square aspect to Mars and Saturn in Leo.  This may denote
a complex dual personality, perhaps a conflicting personality and
individuality.  This very likeable, pleasant, and talented individual, on
the outside, is under considerable tension (Saturn) and turbulence (Mars)
inside (Sun).  A lot of energy may be consumed just for inner stability,
so much so that there may not be enough energy and concentration left to
develop the potential.  Under a harmonious (present-day) transiting
influences, the internal forces may be conquered for a period, but not
forever.  And when the transiting influences become adverse (e.g.,
transiting Saturn conjunct natal Sun), this native could as easily give
up.  In fact, in the longer run, a life of simplicity may be the optimum
path for this individual, for the external "demands of the talent" may
magnify the already severe inner pressure.  And note that this discussion
highlighted three planets, two signs, and a single house.  Imagine a
delineation that takes into account 11 planets, 12 signs, 12 houses, and 5
major aspects.  Imagine a Relationship Analysis that looks at this
information between two persons.

Getting back to the primary topic, a birth chart is a combination of
positive and adverse potentials.  There is no such thing as a "perfect"
relationship chart, nor natal chart.  Of course, some people are more
compatible than others.  Whether or not the relationship potentials are
realized depends also on exogenous factors.  For example, it is up to the
parents and the educators to recognize the potentials and talents in their
children and to provide the initial guidance, discipline, and training.
This applies for positive as well as the negative potentials.  The former
are encouraged; the latter are discouraged.

Once the individual reaches adulthood, when he/she can exercise
self-determination, the path toward self-actualization (i.e., realization
of talents) will not become simpler, probably more difficult.  But again,
the initial guidance and training will be the primary inputs which will
direct this person through the tests, challenges, and experiences of
adulthood.  Whether these tests and challenges are triggered by
astrological events or by exogenous circumstances is irrelevant.  How the
person responds to the stimuli is what counts.  Awareness and
self-awareness will enable the individual to recognize that something is
triggered.  He or she may use this energy to develop talents or something,
or succumb to the energy and do nothing.  The training, education, prior
experiences, and the environment will enable the person to synthesize the
situation and reach a decision as to how to proceed.  This is where the
upbringing, environment, and education may play very crucial roles.

A major axiom of astrology states: "PLANETS DO NOT COMPEL, THEY IMPEL."
In other words,  the planets may trigger events, they may give rise to
certain tendencies; they may test and challenge; they may make life
difficult, but whatever they do they do NOT compel a person to give in.
In short, an individual has lots of room to design and execute his or her